Witam!
Pisałam Wam o moich problemach z B&W i niemożności wyegzekwowania należnych mi pieniędzy z wygranych a źle przez nich rozliczonych zakładów a także o trwającej tygodnie wypłacie która w końcu doszła pomniejszona o ponad 9%!!!
Pieniędzy należnych do dziś nie odzyskałam, teraz jeżeli coś zrobię- to tylko skieruję to na drogę prawną...
Jeżeli jest ktoś poszkodowany i skłonny jest dołączyć się do pozwu zbiorowego to zapraszam!
Tylko tak można tym złodziejom pokazać gdzie ich miejsce!
A ze są takie osoby i to osoby strasznie przez nich oszukane to oto proszę przykład (znalazłam to an forum bettingadvice)
"Most of you already now this unfortunately I learned it (and I'm still learning it) on the hard way.
Here's the thing...
Some five month's ago I opened an account at betandwin, during that time I earned 10793,16€...
Two months ago my account was closed and I received this e-mail from them:
Code:
Dear Sir,
We have to inform you, that our Security Dept. is investigating your
account.
As soon as this investigation has been completed we will contact you, but
until this happens, we are unfortunatly not able to go into further details
on the matter.
Best regards,
Your support team at betandwin
And altough I don't know why they did this I didn't have any choice but to go along with it. I wrote them an e-mail every day and it sometimes took them more than a week to answer it.
Finally after one month since my account was closed I received an e-mail that was different then any other before that. Here is that e-mail:
Code:
Dear Sir,
Thank you for your email.
Your account has been closed due to security reasons and will not be
re-opened again.
To transfer your account balance to your bank account please send us the
following details:
- Name of bank
- Account number
- Branch code
- Swift and IBAN-Code
- Account holder
- Answer to your private question: _____________________
We apologise for any inconvenience that our decision to close your account
may have caused.
Please do not hesitate to contact us if you have any further queries.
Best regards,
Your support team at betandwin
After that i taught everything would be o.k, o.k. my account won't be re-open but I can live with that as long as I have my money.
After that I received an e-mail:
Code:
Dear Sir,
Thank you for your email.
We confirm that we have received your bank account details, and that your
withdrawal will be sent from betandwin at the end of the month. We
apologise for any inconvenience this may cause.
Please do not hesitate to contact us if you have any further queries.
Best regards,
Your support team at betandwin
But ofcourse like always in life things don't go as you plan. I waited until the end of the month and nothing happened. I waited a few more days hoping that they maybe forgot about me, but nothing happened so I've send them an e-mail.
I received an quick answer where they stated that my money was sent to moneybookers account.
Code:
baweur@betandwin.com just sent you money through
www.moneybookers.com But ofcourse I started to cheer to soon 'cause we are talking about betandwin here. I waited for two days for that money to show up on my moneybookers account. Do I even have to say what happened? Ofcourse they didn't send it. So I've send them another e-mail asking them what went wrong and when will they pay me up...
And after five days of waiting I received an e-mail today:
Code:
Dear Sir,
Thank you for your e-mail.
We are currently not able to say when this investigation will be finalised,
but can assure you that we are aiming to do this as fast as possible, and
will contact you as soon as this has happened.
We apologize for any inconvenience caused.
Best regards,
Your support team at betandwin
And now I'm back where I started two months ago. I don't have any more ideas what to do...
At this time all I want to do is to find them and tell them in their face what I have to say...
I don't have anymore patience and quite frankly I'm starting to lose my mind...
There I've said it all, I apologise for this long story but I really don't know what to do anymore...
All I did wrong was that I had to much succes at the
www.betandwin.com and it appears like they don't like that...
I mały komentarz innego użytkownika który dotyka sedna sprawy- sposobu w jaki beszczelnie dyskryminują a właściwiej byłoby napisać oszukują osoby z państw z takich jak : Polska ,Rosja ,Chorwacja ,Rumunia itp...
I'm without any words... Fortunately, I heard a lot of bad stories about them (especialy with customers from Eastern Europe), and have never opened account there, despite they were one of the few bookies with S&M league in offer.
After this, there's only one word: thieves. It's just like they
say: "Hmm...maybe we will give you your money, maybe we wont... Anyway, what you can do about it, you little worm from non EU country..."
Unfortunately, discrimination in the worse form. I'm sure things like that they can't do to someone from France, Germany, Belgium... Because, they know in that case they can face consequences and may face legal prosecution. But with a guy from Croatia, they can act on any way they want.
Like any other companies, bookies (especially some shity ones) also can run out of cash. Couple of good weeks for bettors, a lot of bigger withdrawals and here they come: "Let those guys from Russia, Ukraine, Croatia, Serbia...wait for a couple months. Who cares, write them something like "investigation" sh*t like that, scare them a bit..."
Only here we can do something. Knowing that "Bet and Win and Dream (that you really own that money)" bookie gives a lot for marketing purposes
in the last couple years, maybe we can give them a bit of free advertising here. Let's be united, imagine that any of this double-crossed guys can be any of us (like I was for sometime), and let's spread these cases on the net.
Personally, I will tell anyone who are planing to open account with them or already have one, and I will write on every place I can: "Stay away from those thieves, thieves, thieves, don't deposit anymore, withdraw what you have!"
Yes, I know, it sounds childish, but I said it long time ago on one far and away place, and I will say it again: "It's maybe a small step for me, but it's giant step for punterskind."
Keep us informed about your case, Picek.
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